Jim Martin

10-09-2001, 11:20 AM

Hello All:

Below you will find all the responses I received to my post titled

"Graduate Biomechanics Texts." Based on the responses, it would seem that

several of us struggle with similar text book issues. My sincere thanks to

all of you who contributed. Based on the responses, I have ordered several

desk copies and will post a response once I have had time to evaluate them.

Sincerely,

Jim Martin

Original Post

Hello All:

One of the courses I teach is a masters level biomechanics course. For

several years I have been using Winter's "Biomechanics and Motor Control of

Human Movement" and I really like the format and flow of that text.

Unfortunately, the students are frustrated by the numerous errors and the

cavalier way in which some of the examples are worked out. My students

usually come in to this class with a wide variety of math backgrounds and

some are quite challenged by the equations for dynamic equilibrium (hence

they find errors in solutions maddening).

The focus of the course is on inverse dynamic solutions (i.e. getting

though chapter 4) and estimating muscle forces (chapter 5).

Can any of you recommend an alternative text that will allow me to teach

the course in the same way but reduce the frustration of my students?

Thanks in advance,

Responses

Raoul F. Reiser II at University of Wyoming wrote:

If you get some good advice I would like to hear it. I too plan to use

Winter's text in the future, but would like something with less errors and

possibly a little more up to date. Have you ever looked at

Three-dimensional analysis of human movement by Allard et al, published by

HK? It has all the right topics, but found it to be way too challenging

for the students I would be working with. Enoka's text is supposed to have

a new version out and they have made enough changes to also change the

title. I don't know if it expands enough now though to cover what you are

looking for.

Ruth E. Mayagoitia-Hill at Stratfordshire University

wrote:

How about my favorite: Barney Le Veau, "Williams and

Lissner's Biomechanics of Human Motion", WB Saunders Co, ISBN 072165743-5.

Also available in French and Spanish. There are some misprints, but

only a few.

Raul Diaz Gonzalez at Laboratorio de Análisis de

Movimiento, Centro de Rehabilitación Infantil Teletón wrote:

I can recommend the book written by Dr. Cappozzo. I had the opportunity to

attend his course in Florence last November and his book is wonderful. It

is available through amazon.com.

Bryan St. Laurent at Arizona State University wrote:

There is a great book that is just out by Gary T. Yamaguchi (Arizona State

University). Professor Yamaguchi uses Kane's Method (a vector based

approach) for biomechanical analysis in 3D. There are chapters on muscle

modeling and inverse dynamics.

Roozbeh Naemi wrote:

As I used Newton-Euler's Inverse Dynamic equations in my MSc thesis, I

think that chapter 8 of "Three-Dimensional Analysis of Human Movement"

Edited by Paul Allard, Ian Stokes, Jeanne-Pierre Blanchi Copyright 1995

384pp ISBN: 0873226232 by the title of "Euler's and Lagrange's Equations

for Linked Rigid-Body Models of Three-Dimensional Human Motion" by James G

Andrews is the simplest and best text for Inverse Dynamic Equations. In my

opinion it is very suitable for students with average base of mathematics.

Priya Radhakrishnan at University of Illinois at Chicago

wrote:

Having taken a course myself with that textbook, I agree that the numerous

errors and examples are not sufficient and frustrating. Unfortunately I do

not know of any other useful texts. My only suggestion is to focus more on

the concepts and work through some of the more basic problems that allows

one to understand the methodology of inverse dynamics and approach it more

practically by assigning the more challenging problems that require the use

of a programming software such as Matlab as well as use journal articles as

supplements. Hope this helps. Good luck.

At Hof at Institute of Human Movement Sciences &

Laboratory of Human Movement Analysis AZG University of Groningen

I can agree with the feelings of you and your students. Winter's book is

valuable, I learned the trade myself from it, but a good course should

contain some more fundamental stuff. Other texts are even more basic, they

seldom rise above M = force x arm.

Then later Dr. Hof wrote:

You already got an answer from me, but recently I came across a new book:

"Human Body Dynamics" by A. Tozeren Springer, New York, 2000 ISBN

0-387-98801-7 I had only time to browse it superficially. It is not what I

hoped it to be. Most kinesiology texts are a lot of anatomy, but

very elementary mechanics. The notable exception is Winter. This book is

quite the contrary. It is a thorough text on classical mechanics, with

examples taken from biomechanics, but not real biomechanics. I mean - the

theory seems alright, be it rather 'heavy' - but it falls short in

practice E.g. local reference frames are used very extensively in

the derivation of the angular velocity vector (ch 9) but I have as yet not

found how to compute it from the derivatives of the rotation matrices.

Inverse dynamics in treated only very cursorily, no examples or practical

considerations. Examples are often quite artificial. Maybe this text will

be appreciated by your boimed eng students but for kinesiology students it

is way too difficult and too far from practice. It may be a good book for

the teacher to look how it really is, or to get ideas for problems. I think

it is a good thing to exchange findings this way.

Richard N. Hinrichs, Ph.D. Dept. of Exercise Science and

Physical Education Arizona State University wrote:

I use Nordin and Frankel (2001) for my course entitled Biomechanics of the

Skeletal System. We also use an out of print book by Wiktorin and Nordin

(1986) entitled "Problem Solving in Biomechanics". I got permission to

reprint it ourselves at the copy center. This course might not be at the

same level as your course since we only do static equilibrium problems to

compute muscle and joint forces. The course is a combined senior

undergraduate/beginning graduate course and follow the Nordin and Frankel

book fairly closely.

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Below you will find all the responses I received to my post titled

"Graduate Biomechanics Texts." Based on the responses, it would seem that

several of us struggle with similar text book issues. My sincere thanks to

all of you who contributed. Based on the responses, I have ordered several

desk copies and will post a response once I have had time to evaluate them.

Sincerely,

Jim Martin

Original Post

Hello All:

One of the courses I teach is a masters level biomechanics course. For

several years I have been using Winter's "Biomechanics and Motor Control of

Human Movement" and I really like the format and flow of that text.

Unfortunately, the students are frustrated by the numerous errors and the

cavalier way in which some of the examples are worked out. My students

usually come in to this class with a wide variety of math backgrounds and

some are quite challenged by the equations for dynamic equilibrium (hence

they find errors in solutions maddening).

The focus of the course is on inverse dynamic solutions (i.e. getting

though chapter 4) and estimating muscle forces (chapter 5).

Can any of you recommend an alternative text that will allow me to teach

the course in the same way but reduce the frustration of my students?

Thanks in advance,

Responses

Raoul F. Reiser II at University of Wyoming wrote:

If you get some good advice I would like to hear it. I too plan to use

Winter's text in the future, but would like something with less errors and

possibly a little more up to date. Have you ever looked at

Three-dimensional analysis of human movement by Allard et al, published by

HK? It has all the right topics, but found it to be way too challenging

for the students I would be working with. Enoka's text is supposed to have

a new version out and they have made enough changes to also change the

title. I don't know if it expands enough now though to cover what you are

looking for.

Ruth E. Mayagoitia-Hill at Stratfordshire University

wrote:

How about my favorite: Barney Le Veau, "Williams and

Lissner's Biomechanics of Human Motion", WB Saunders Co, ISBN 072165743-5.

Also available in French and Spanish. There are some misprints, but

only a few.

Raul Diaz Gonzalez at Laboratorio de Análisis de

Movimiento, Centro de Rehabilitación Infantil Teletón wrote:

I can recommend the book written by Dr. Cappozzo. I had the opportunity to

attend his course in Florence last November and his book is wonderful. It

is available through amazon.com.

Bryan St. Laurent at Arizona State University wrote:

There is a great book that is just out by Gary T. Yamaguchi (Arizona State

University). Professor Yamaguchi uses Kane's Method (a vector based

approach) for biomechanical analysis in 3D. There are chapters on muscle

modeling and inverse dynamics.

Roozbeh Naemi wrote:

As I used Newton-Euler's Inverse Dynamic equations in my MSc thesis, I

think that chapter 8 of "Three-Dimensional Analysis of Human Movement"

Edited by Paul Allard, Ian Stokes, Jeanne-Pierre Blanchi Copyright 1995

384pp ISBN: 0873226232 by the title of "Euler's and Lagrange's Equations

for Linked Rigid-Body Models of Three-Dimensional Human Motion" by James G

Andrews is the simplest and best text for Inverse Dynamic Equations. In my

opinion it is very suitable for students with average base of mathematics.

Priya Radhakrishnan at University of Illinois at Chicago

wrote:

Having taken a course myself with that textbook, I agree that the numerous

errors and examples are not sufficient and frustrating. Unfortunately I do

not know of any other useful texts. My only suggestion is to focus more on

the concepts and work through some of the more basic problems that allows

one to understand the methodology of inverse dynamics and approach it more

practically by assigning the more challenging problems that require the use

of a programming software such as Matlab as well as use journal articles as

supplements. Hope this helps. Good luck.

At Hof at Institute of Human Movement Sciences &

Laboratory of Human Movement Analysis AZG University of Groningen

I can agree with the feelings of you and your students. Winter's book is

valuable, I learned the trade myself from it, but a good course should

contain some more fundamental stuff. Other texts are even more basic, they

seldom rise above M = force x arm.

Then later Dr. Hof wrote:

You already got an answer from me, but recently I came across a new book:

"Human Body Dynamics" by A. Tozeren Springer, New York, 2000 ISBN

0-387-98801-7 I had only time to browse it superficially. It is not what I

hoped it to be. Most kinesiology texts are a lot of anatomy, but

very elementary mechanics. The notable exception is Winter. This book is

quite the contrary. It is a thorough text on classical mechanics, with

examples taken from biomechanics, but not real biomechanics. I mean - the

theory seems alright, be it rather 'heavy' - but it falls short in

practice E.g. local reference frames are used very extensively in

the derivation of the angular velocity vector (ch 9) but I have as yet not

found how to compute it from the derivatives of the rotation matrices.

Inverse dynamics in treated only very cursorily, no examples or practical

considerations. Examples are often quite artificial. Maybe this text will

be appreciated by your boimed eng students but for kinesiology students it

is way too difficult and too far from practice. It may be a good book for

the teacher to look how it really is, or to get ideas for problems. I think

it is a good thing to exchange findings this way.

Richard N. Hinrichs, Ph.D. Dept. of Exercise Science and

Physical Education Arizona State University wrote:

I use Nordin and Frankel (2001) for my course entitled Biomechanics of the

Skeletal System. We also use an out of print book by Wiktorin and Nordin

(1986) entitled "Problem Solving in Biomechanics". I got permission to

reprint it ourselves at the copy center. This course might not be at the

same level as your course since we only do static equilibrium problems to

compute muscle and joint forces. The course is a combined senior

undergraduate/beginning graduate course and follow the Nordin and Frankel

book fairly closely.

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