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10-16-2005, 06:03 PM
Hello All

Very many thanks for the wealth of help and suggestions I
received. I have started following up all of these and will continue
to do so until I can decide exactly what my project will be. Here is
my original query followed by the replies I received. I hope the
summary format is acceptable.

Best wishes
Graham Ride


>I am new to this list. I am an Open University student in England.
My next year's studies will be an Artificial Intelligence project of
my >own choosing. I am interested in Thoroughbred breeding theories
and would like my project to be concerned with this field in some way.

>Firstly, of course, I need to be able to locate suitable data,
otherwise, no project!

>Can anyone point me in the direction of any or all of the following.

>+ Biomechanical data of racing or breeding Thoroughbreds.

>+ X-Factor (large heart gene on the female X chromosome) data
in Thoroughbreds.

>+ Mitochondrial capacity/efficiency data for Thoroughbreds.

>Broadly-speaking I would like to do something along the lines of
investigating the possibilities of an AI system classifying potential
racing >Thoroughbred performance against biomechanical or genetic

>I would be grateful for any assistance whether direct or of the
direction-pointing kind.

>Graham Ride

I think if you contacted Guelph University School of Veterinary
Science in Guelph, Ontario, Canada, you might get some help there.
Also Purdue University School of Veterinary Science in West
Lafayette, Indiana, USA might be able to direct you, especially since
Indiana is geographically connected to Kentucky.
Good luck.
Sandi Spaulding

There is an excellent reference textbook by Beck and Clayton titled
"Equine Locomotion" with a good overview of equine biomechanics. May
be a good start.
-Bob Armiger

I recently finished my master's degree on the Biomechanics
of the equine forelimb during landing from a jump, so I may be able
to help you some. I can helping you with some of the biomechanical
data, and a little of the Ex. Phys info, but I need a little more
information about what factors you plan to specifically study. I
would suggest a internet search of recent literature. A good
beginning would be to do a Medline or Agricola search for
racing. The Equine Vet Journal publishes a lot of equine
biomechanics articles as well. I would also look into Hillary
Clayton's Equine Locomotion book, Reuben J Rose's The Athletic Horse,
and a new book by Andy Biewener's Animal Locomotion.

I think that some of the first questions you need to
evaluate are which factors couple with successful racing i.e.: leg
length, cannon length, stride length, movement of the COM, break down
rate, pastern angle, VO2max, hematocrit levels, muscle fiber type,
cardiac output, max knee flexion, duty factor, joint
moments.....etc. If you could synthesize all of this data and find
just a few key variables, then I think you will be more
successful. One Last point, a lot of studies have been performed on
running horses, but not necessarily thoroughbreds, so just keep that
in mind when reading them. I hope this helps some. If you narrow
down some criteria, I would be more than willing to help.

Abbie Ferris

Not sure how much the literature will help you on biomechanics of
thoroughbred running - it is mainly related to walking and trotting data on
non-thoroughbreds - but you could look at conformation data in
thoroughbreds. This area describes the joint and segment angles during
stance and is often used when assessing the fitness of a horse for activity
and its potential.

Nick Brown

Your project scope seems very wide
If you are interested in applying AI to horse data it may pay to contact
Dr allan wilson at the royal veterinary college
He collects a lot of biomechanical data on horses and may have some data
sets that could be used with AI for classification into different
lameness types or categories

Hope this is of help


Your proposed research sounds very interesting. I would suggest if you
are just formulating your ideas, you do a search on PubMed:


You will be surprised by the number of quality equine biomechanical and
physiological references it produces.

Best of luck,
- Rochelle

You might want to contact Pippa Powers at the Univ of Limerick. She has
published several papers on horse and rider interactions during jumping. Her
address is: pippa.powers@ul.ie

Randall Jensen, PhD, FACSM, CSCS
Professor of Sports Science
Dept. HPER
Northern Michigan University
Marquette, MI 49855

Someone that may be useful to contact is Professor Alan Goodship he
does extensive work within
thoroughbred racehorses. He is based at Stanmore (UCL) as well as
the Royal Vetenary College
(London), hope this helps.

Cheers and the best of luck,


Dr Keith Winwood,
Institute for Biophysical & Clinical Research into Human Movement,
Manchester Metropolitan University,
Alsager Campus
Hassall Road
Stoke on Trent

These will get you started at a rotary gallop:






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