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Lau Chung Sing(laurence)
07-02-1997, 03:33 PM
>From begging@work.prestel.co.uk Thu Jul 3 13:29:34 1997
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:46:42 +0100
From: On hands and knees
To: "LAU CHUNG SING(Laurence)"
Subject: Re: Anthropometric measurement

Dear Lawrence,

I know that the Computer Science department of University College London is
doing research with a device that measures the entrire body surface from
head to toe. It is called the "bodyline scanner" and is on loan from
Hamamatsu corporation (?) in Japan, and has been designed as an aid for
clothes shopping.

The computer science department might have something on its homepage
"http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk". One person who works with it is called Francis
(f.djabri@ucl.ac.uk) but he doesn't check his email very often.

Hope this helps..

sacha brostoff

>From stephane.sikorski@onecert.fr Thu Jul 3 13:29:40 1997
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:35:14 +0200
From: stephane sikorski
To: "LAU CHUNG SING(Laurence)"
Subject: Re: Anthropometric measurement and Occupational Diseases

Do you know that what kind of jobs the labour will cause
>occupational diseases frequently such as cramp of hand or forearm, beat
>hand, beat knee, beat elbow and tenosynovitis of hand or forearm? Do you
>think that these diseases are due to bad or no ergonomic design on
>workstation, equipment and worksite?
>

Hi,

I am a Phd student in ergonomics in France.
All labours with high frequency of repititivity, it means when workers have
to do a short time action very, very often, as Taylor's theory recommend
-)).
Needlewomen, keyboarders ...
You also have workers who have a precision work like spot welders of little
electronics.

This is not one thing that cause problems, but it is a combination of factors.
Do not try to find one problem, but try to find what are these factors.
Do not try to resolve all these problems, because it will be impossible...
Try to find the limit where below you reduce the risk twice or three time.


I hope that my little reply will help you

Steph


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>From alex@fgan.de Thu Jul 3 13:29:47 1997
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:44:05 +0000
From: "T. Alexander"
To: "LAU CHUNG SING(Laurence)"
Subject: Re: Anthropometric measurement and Occupational Diseases

LAU CHUNG SING(Laurence) wrote:
>
> Dear Thomas,
>
> I am studying in Hong Kong of University of Science and Technology
> and my final year project is about the automatic anthropometric
> measurement device. Have you had experience in this device? Do you know
> what kind of sensors is suitable to measure distance.
>
> In the planning stage, we will measure the body size manaual by
> standard anthropometry in order to find the reference data for this
> automatic device. We will find the data such as technical measurement
> error, reliability, precision and accuracy of measurement. Do you think
> that it is a good method?
>
> Do you know that what kind of jobs the labour will cause
> occupational diseases frequently such as cramp of hand or forearm, beat
> hand, beat knee, beat elbow and tenosynovitis of hand or forearm? Do you
> think that these diseases are due to bad or no ergonomic design on
> workstation, equipment and worksite?
>
> Sincerely,
> Laurence
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lau Chung Sing, Laurence
> UG student
> Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
> Department of Industrial Engineering and Engineering Management
> Fax: (852)28735456
> email: ie_lcsaa@stu.ust.hk
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear Laurence,

First of all: What automatic anthropometric measurement device are you
going to use in your experiment ? I only know the 3d-bodyscanners
(surface anthropometry) of cyberware and other companies. These scanners
use either a laser technology or different optic patterns to scan human
contours. Still you have to mark the anthropometric landmarks by hand in
order to measure the "traditional" anthropometric measurements.

If you use one of these ... mail back and I will give you some more
information.

Personally, I think that your method of comparing the traditional method
with your new method is a correct way. You only have to take care about
the precision of the traditional measures (personnel should be well
experienced in anthropometric methods).

I am still looking for a paper about occupational diseases of
"non-anthropometric" workplaces myself but yet I have not found one. The
problem is that these diseases are long-term and so they are taken for
granted by most persons. If you find any papers about it, please let me
know.

Regards,

Thomas

================================================== ===================
Thomas Alexander
Research Institute for Electronics and Mathematics
Ergonomics Dept.
Neuenahrer Strasse 20
53343 Wachtberg-Werthhoven

voice: +49 228 9435-480
fax : +49 228 9435-508
email: alex@fgan.de
www : www.fgan.de
================================================== ===================
>From candacerc@ghgcorp.com Thu Jul 3 13:29:55 1997
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:20:33 -0500
From: Candace Caminati
To: "LAU CHUNG SING(Laurence)"
Subject: Re: Anthropometric measurement and Occupational Diseases

Yes to your question! Please contact Dr. Dale Webb at NASA, The Johnson
Space Center. His e-mail address is: ecdawebb@teexnet.tamu.edu.

Let him know that I suggested your contact.

Very truly Yours,
Candace Caminati, B.S.,M.S.
President
BioMetric Systems
e-mail: biometsys@bigfoot.com


>Dear,
>
> I am studying in Hong Kong of University of Science and Technology
>and my final year project is about the automatic anthropometric
>measurement device. Have you had experience in this device? Do you know
>what kind of sensors is suitable to measure distance.
>
> In the planning stage, we will measure the body size manaual by
>standard anthropometry in order to find the reference data for this
>automatic device. We will find the data such as technical measurement
>error, reliability, precision and accuracy of measurement. Do you think
>that it is a good method?
>
>
> Do you know that what kind of jobs the labour will cause
>occupational diseases frequently such as cramp of hand or forearm, beat
>hand, beat knee, beat elbow and tenosynovitis of hand or forearm? Do you
>think that these diseases are due to bad or no ergonomic design on
>workstation, equipment and worksite?
>
> Sincerely,
> Laurence
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Lau Chung Sing, Laurence
>UG student
>Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
>Department of Industrial Engineering and Engineering Management
>Fax: (852)28735456
>email: ie_lcsaa@stu.ust.hk
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>From Sacha@work.prestel.co.uk Thu Jul 3 13:30:14 1997
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 00:05:59 +0100
From: Sacha Brostoff
To: "LAU CHUNG SING(Laurence)"
Subject: Re: Anthropometric measurement

Dear Lawrence,

The email address of the person who is collecting subjects to test the
Bodyline scanner is:
s.khan@cs.ucl.ac.uk

yours,
Sacha.

>From alex@fgan.de Thu Jul 3 13:30:36 1997
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:05:14 +0000
From: "T. Alexander"
To: "LAU CHUNG SING(Laurence)"
Subject: Re: (1) Anthropometric measurement and Occupational Diseases

Dear Laurence,

here are some links to www-sites about surface anthropometry:

http://cseriac.udri.udayton.edu/gateway/gate.htm
http://cseriac.udri.udayton.edu/gateway/GW_VII_2.pdf
http://www.cyberware.com/
http://www.al.wpafb.af.mil/~cardlab/
http://www.sae.org/TECHCMTE/caesumm.htm

Regards,
Thomas

================================================== ===================
Thomas Alexander
Research Institute for Electronics and Mathematics
Ergonomics Dept.
Neuenahrer Strasse 20
53343 Wachtberg-Werthhoven

voice: +49 228 9435-480
fax : +49 228 9435-508
email: alex@fgan.de
www : www.fgan.de
================================================== ===================

LAU CHUNG SING(Laurence) wrote:
>
> Dear Thomas,
>
> Thanks for your message. Our department has not decided to
> develope the automatic anthropometric measurement device. We know that the
> surface anthropometry has developed well, but we think that it can not use
> in the outdoor. Thus, we want to build a protable and effective and
> efficient and lower cost (semi-)automated anthropometric measurement
> device.
>
> One of part of project is to get the information about the
> advanced anthropometric measurement device, so if you have these
> information and give us, these will be very useful reference material for
> us.
>
> About the traditional measures, how can I control the quality of
> the measurer? And how to determine that their quality is good? Do I just
> use two error estimate such as technical error of measurement(TEM) and
> the reliability of measurement for intra-measurer and inter-measurer?
>
> If I find the information about the occupational disease that
> caused by "non-anthropometric" workplace, I will give you.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> Laurence
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lau Chung Sing, Laurence
> UG student
> Department of Industrial Engineering and Engineering Management
> Pager: 72293779
> Fax: 28735456
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Dear Laurence,
> >
> > First of all: What automatic anthropometric measurement device are you
> > going to use in your experiment ? I only know the 3d-bodyscanners
> > (surface anthropometry) of cyberware and other companies. These scanners
> > use either a laser technology or different optic patterns to scan human
> > contours. Still you have to mark the anthropometric landmarks by hand in
> > order to measure the "traditional" anthropometric measurements.
> >
> > If you use one of these ... mail back and I will give you some more
> > information.
> >
> > Personally, I think that your method of comparing the traditional method
> > with your new method is a correct way. You only have to take care about
> > the precision of the traditional measures (personnel should be well
> > experienced in anthropometric methods).
> >
> > I am still looking for a paper about occupational diseases of
> > "non-anthropometric" workplaces myself but yet I have not found one. The
> > problem is that these diseases are long-term and so they are taken for
> > granted by most persons. If you find any papers about it, please let me
> > know.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Thomas