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  • RESPONSE of [BIOMCH-L] Surface Electrode at trunk muscles.

    Attached are Responses which I received
    concerning my message : "[BIOMCH-L] Best placing for Surface Electrode at
    trunk muscles."
    thank you for the responses and hope this posting will be usefull.


    with best regards,
    SWIE YW

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    SWIE,Yuniarto Wijaya
    Master Course Student
    Univ. of Electro-Communication (UEC), Tokyo JAPAN
    Graduate School of Electro-Comm.


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "SWIE Yuniarto Wijaya $B!! (B"
    Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:51 PM
    Subject: [BIOMCH-L] Best placing for Surface Electrode at trunk muscles.


    dear members,
    I am interested in posture and muscular activity, at present I need
    information regarding best method in placing Surface-electrode at trunk
    muscles (i.e thorac and lumbar erector spinae, obliquus abdominis ext and
    int, rectus abdomini, and lattisimus dorsi.)
    Please kindly help me with advise and explanation on it.

    I also heard that McGill, Joseph Ng and Kippers published paper regarding
    the matter, however I don't know precisely the title.
    May be anybody can give me information about it.
    I will be gratefull for any information.

    Best Regards

    SWIE Yuniarto
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    RESPONSES :

    From: "Tony Brosky"
    Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:36 PM

    SWIE Yuniarto,
    I, too, would be interested in knowing what you find from the listserve.
    There is a text on surface EMG by Cram and Kasman Introduction to Surface
    EMG, published by ASPEN that gives some guidelines and recommendations.
    Tony

    Joseph A. ("Tony") Brosky, Jr., PT,SCS,MS
    Assistant Professor-Physical Therapy
    Coordinator-Teaching Laboratory Practice
    Department of Allied Health

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    From: "Sarah Jane Gordon"
    Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:40 PM

    > Yuniarto,
    >
    > I'm currently trying to investigate the same area.
    > I can't find the article in my search records that you are refering to but
    > the closest I could find was this:
    >
    > NG, J. K.-F., KIPPERS, V. & Richardson, C. Optimal placement of EMG
    > electrodes on abdominal muscles. Clinical
    > Solutions: Proceedings of 9th Biennial Conference of Manipulative
    > Physiotherapists Association of Australia, Gold
    > Coast, 22-25 November 1995, 109-110. Melbourne, Manipulative Ther Assoc
    > Aust, 1995.
    >
    > I don't have a copy myself. I am not as far along with my investigation as
    > you!
    > I would be grateful if you could let me know what information you get in
    > response.
    >
    > Good Luck!
    >
    > Sarah Gordon
    >
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    From: Wes Zwiefel
    Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:10 AM


    An excellent reference is in the text:

    Cram, J.R., Kasman, G.S. (1998). Introduction to surface electromyography.
    Gaithersberg, MD: Aspen Publishers, Inc.

    Book may be found at: http://www.aspenpub.com

    This book has great pictorials and specific sits for muscles of the
    abdominals. I have used it for the rectus abdominis and external oblique
    sites.

    Wes Zwiefel, CSCS
    Graduate Student
    Department of HPELS
    University of Northern Iowa
    Cedar Falls, IA

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    From: Vaughan Kippers < v.kippers@uq.edu.au >
    Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:49 AM

    Dear Swie,
    This is one of the papers you refer to:
    Ng, J.K-F., Kippers, V. and Richardson, C.A. (1998) Muscle fibre orientation
    of abdominal muscles and suggested surface electrode positions.
    Electromyography and Clinical Neurophysiology 38(1):51-58.
    See http://www.uq.edu.au/~anvkippe/profes/public.html for more information
    about other papers using surface EMG on the trunk.
    Vaughan

    Vaughan Kippers PhD http://www.uq.edu.au/~anvkippe/
    Senior Lecturer, Musculoskeletal Function Group
    School of Biomedical Sciences http://sbms.uq.edu.au/
    Department of Anatomy & Developmental Biology http://www.anatomy.uq.edu.au/
    Room 81-414, Otto Hirschfeld Bldg, The University of Queensland 4072
    AUSTRALIA

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    From: "Ted Clancy"
    Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:32 AM

    You might look at the book "Anatomical Guide for the Electromyographer: The
    Limbs and Trunk," by Aldo Perotto (third edition) from Charles C. Thomas,
    Springfield, Illinois, USA. (Earlier editions listed the authors as
    Delagi, Perotto, Iazzetti and Morrison).

    Ted Clancy
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    From: Owen Evans
    Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:34 PM

    Dear Mr SWIE,

    In the past I have used electrode placements shown in Pope et al:

    Spine 1987 Dec;12(10):1041-5
    The role of prerotation of the trunk in axial twisting
    efforts.

    Pope MH, Svensson M, Andersson GB, Broman H, Zetterberg C.

    __________________________________________________ ___________
    Owen M EVANS, PhD
    Associate Professor, Centre for Ergonomics and Human Factors
    School of Human Biosciences, La Trobe University, Melbourne, Australia
    Postal: School of Human Biosciences, La Trobe University, VIC 3086,
    Australia
    mailto.evans@latrobe.edu.au Tel: +61 3 9479 5787 Fax: +61 3 9479 5784

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