Attached are Responses which I received
concerning my message : "[BIOMCH-L] Best placing for Surface Electrode at
trunk muscles."
thank you for the responses and hope this posting will be usefull.


with best regards,
SWIE YW

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SWIE,Yuniarto Wijaya
Master Course Student
Univ. of Electro-Communication (UEC), Tokyo JAPAN
Graduate School of Electro-Comm.


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From: "SWIE Yuniarto Wijaya $B!! (B"
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:51 PM
Subject: [BIOMCH-L] Best placing for Surface Electrode at trunk muscles.


dear members,
I am interested in posture and muscular activity, at present I need
information regarding best method in placing Surface-electrode at trunk
muscles (i.e thorac and lumbar erector spinae, obliquus abdominis ext and
int, rectus abdomini, and lattisimus dorsi.)
Please kindly help me with advise and explanation on it.

I also heard that McGill, Joseph Ng and Kippers published paper regarding
the matter, however I don't know precisely the title.
May be anybody can give me information about it.
I will be gratefull for any information.

Best Regards

SWIE Yuniarto
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RESPONSES :

From: "Tony Brosky"
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:36 PM

SWIE Yuniarto,
I, too, would be interested in knowing what you find from the listserve.
There is a text on surface EMG by Cram and Kasman Introduction to Surface
EMG, published by ASPEN that gives some guidelines and recommendations.
Tony

Joseph A. ("Tony") Brosky, Jr., PT,SCS,MS
Assistant Professor-Physical Therapy
Coordinator-Teaching Laboratory Practice
Department of Allied Health

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From: "Sarah Jane Gordon"
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:40 PM

> Yuniarto,
>
> I'm currently trying to investigate the same area.
> I can't find the article in my search records that you are refering to but
> the closest I could find was this:
>
> NG, J. K.-F., KIPPERS, V. & Richardson, C. Optimal placement of EMG
> electrodes on abdominal muscles. Clinical
> Solutions: Proceedings of 9th Biennial Conference of Manipulative
> Physiotherapists Association of Australia, Gold
> Coast, 22-25 November 1995, 109-110. Melbourne, Manipulative Ther Assoc
> Aust, 1995.
>
> I don't have a copy myself. I am not as far along with my investigation as
> you!
> I would be grateful if you could let me know what information you get in
> response.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Sarah Gordon
>
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From: Wes Zwiefel
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:10 AM


An excellent reference is in the text:

Cram, J.R., Kasman, G.S. (1998). Introduction to surface electromyography.
Gaithersberg, MD: Aspen Publishers, Inc.

Book may be found at: http://www.aspenpub.com

This book has great pictorials and specific sits for muscles of the
abdominals. I have used it for the rectus abdominis and external oblique
sites.

Wes Zwiefel, CSCS
Graduate Student
Department of HPELS
University of Northern Iowa
Cedar Falls, IA

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From: Vaughan Kippers < v.kippers@uq.edu.au >
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:49 AM

Dear Swie,
This is one of the papers you refer to:
Ng, J.K-F., Kippers, V. and Richardson, C.A. (1998) Muscle fibre orientation
of abdominal muscles and suggested surface electrode positions.
Electromyography and Clinical Neurophysiology 38(1):51-58.
See http://www.uq.edu.au/~anvkippe/profes/public.html for more information
about other papers using surface EMG on the trunk.
Vaughan

Vaughan Kippers PhD http://www.uq.edu.au/~anvkippe/
Senior Lecturer, Musculoskeletal Function Group
School of Biomedical Sciences http://sbms.uq.edu.au/
Department of Anatomy & Developmental Biology http://www.anatomy.uq.edu.au/
Room 81-414, Otto Hirschfeld Bldg, The University of Queensland 4072
AUSTRALIA

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From: "Ted Clancy"
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:32 AM

You might look at the book "Anatomical Guide for the Electromyographer: The
Limbs and Trunk," by Aldo Perotto (third edition) from Charles C. Thomas,
Springfield, Illinois, USA. (Earlier editions listed the authors as
Delagi, Perotto, Iazzetti and Morrison).

Ted Clancy
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From: Owen Evans
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:34 PM

Dear Mr SWIE,

In the past I have used electrode placements shown in Pope et al:

Spine 1987 Dec;12(10):1041-5
The role of prerotation of the trunk in axial twisting
efforts.

Pope MH, Svensson M, Andersson GB, Broman H, Zetterberg C.

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Owen M EVANS, PhD
Associate Professor, Centre for Ergonomics and Human Factors
School of Human Biosciences, La Trobe University, Melbourne, Australia
Postal: School of Human Biosciences, La Trobe University, VIC 3086,
Australia
mailto.evans@latrobe.edu.au Tel: +61 3 9479 5787 Fax: +61 3 9479 5784

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