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    Hello All

    Very many thanks for the wealth of help and suggestions I
    received. I have started following up all of these and will continue
    to do so until I can decide exactly what my project will be. Here is
    my original query followed by the replies I received. I hope the
    summary format is acceptable.

    Best wishes
    Graham Ride


    >I am new to this list. I am an Open University student in England.
    My next year's studies will be an Artificial Intelligence project of
    my >own choosing. I am interested in Thoroughbred breeding theories
    and would like my project to be concerned with this field in some way.

    >Firstly, of course, I need to be able to locate suitable data,
    otherwise, no project!

    >Can anyone point me in the direction of any or all of the following.

    >+ Biomechanical data of racing or breeding Thoroughbreds.

    >+ X-Factor (large heart gene on the female X chromosome) data
    in Thoroughbreds.

    >+ Mitochondrial capacity/efficiency data for Thoroughbreds.

    >Broadly-speaking I would like to do something along the lines of
    investigating the possibilities of an AI system classifying potential
    racing >Thoroughbred performance against biomechanical or genetic

    >I would be grateful for any assistance whether direct or of the
    direction-pointing kind.

    >Graham Ride

    I think if you contacted Guelph University School of Veterinary
    Science in Guelph, Ontario, Canada, you might get some help there.
    Also Purdue University School of Veterinary Science in West
    Lafayette, Indiana, USA might be able to direct you, especially since
    Indiana is geographically connected to Kentucky.
    Good luck.
    Sandi Spaulding

    There is an excellent reference textbook by Beck and Clayton titled
    "Equine Locomotion" with a good overview of equine biomechanics. May
    be a good start.
    -Bob Armiger

    I recently finished my master's degree on the Biomechanics
    of the equine forelimb during landing from a jump, so I may be able
    to help you some. I can helping you with some of the biomechanical
    data, and a little of the Ex. Phys info, but I need a little more
    information about what factors you plan to specifically study. I
    would suggest a internet search of recent literature. A good
    beginning would be to do a Medline or Agricola search for
    racing. The Equine Vet Journal publishes a lot of equine
    biomechanics articles as well. I would also look into Hillary
    Clayton's Equine Locomotion book, Reuben J Rose's The Athletic Horse,
    and a new book by Andy Biewener's Animal Locomotion.

    I think that some of the first questions you need to
    evaluate are which factors couple with successful racing i.e.: leg
    length, cannon length, stride length, movement of the COM, break down
    rate, pastern angle, VO2max, hematocrit levels, muscle fiber type,
    cardiac output, max knee flexion, duty factor, joint
    moments.....etc. If you could synthesize all of this data and find
    just a few key variables, then I think you will be more
    successful. One Last point, a lot of studies have been performed on
    running horses, but not necessarily thoroughbreds, so just keep that
    in mind when reading them. I hope this helps some. If you narrow
    down some criteria, I would be more than willing to help.

    Abbie Ferris

    Not sure how much the literature will help you on biomechanics of
    thoroughbred running - it is mainly related to walking and trotting data on
    non-thoroughbreds - but you could look at conformation data in
    thoroughbreds. This area describes the joint and segment angles during
    stance and is often used when assessing the fitness of a horse for activity
    and its potential.

    Nick Brown

    Your project scope seems very wide
    If you are interested in applying AI to horse data it may pay to contact
    Dr allan wilson at the royal veterinary college
    He collects a lot of biomechanical data on horses and may have some data
    sets that could be used with AI for classification into different
    lameness types or categories

    Hope this is of help


    Your proposed research sounds very interesting. I would suggest if you
    are just formulating your ideas, you do a search on PubMed:

    You will be surprised by the number of quality equine biomechanical and
    physiological references it produces.

    Best of luck,
    - Rochelle

    You might want to contact Pippa Powers at the Univ of Limerick. She has
    published several papers on horse and rider interactions during jumping. Her
    address is:

    Randall Jensen, PhD, FACSM, CSCS
    Professor of Sports Science
    Dept. HPER
    Northern Michigan University
    Marquette, MI 49855

    Someone that may be useful to contact is Professor Alan Goodship he
    does extensive work within
    thoroughbred racehorses. He is based at Stanmore (UCL) as well as
    the Royal Vetenary College
    (London), hope this helps.

    Cheers and the best of luck,


    Dr Keith Winwood,
    Institute for Biophysical & Clinical Research into Human Movement,
    Manchester Metropolitan University,
    Alsager Campus
    Hassall Road
    Stoke on Trent
    ST7 2HL

    These will get you started at a rotary gallop:

    I would be interested to know what other replies you receive from BIOMCH-L



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