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    Hi Peter,

    it was me asking about the feather armor sometime last year. I posted
    a summary which I append to this mail.

    Hope this helps,


    From Sat Oct 14 10:02:45 2006
    Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 15:10:06 +0200 (CEST)
    From: Martin Baeker
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    Subject: Feather armor

    Hello everyone,

    some time ago I asked a question about the use of feathers in armor and
    got a large number of replies. So first of all, thanks to everyone who was
    interested and helped with some information. (BTW, googling for feather
    armor only gets you to lots of role-playing sites...)

    Many people pointed out the decorative use of feathers (for example, by
    Prussian Huzzars), but the use of feathers as a functional component was
    more difficult to nail down.

    Most of the answers concerned the use of feathers by the Aztecs,
    however, it was not so easy to find out whether this was just decoration
    or functional.
    After some digging through mails and references, I was pointed to the book
    "Aztec warfare" by R. Hassig. An indeed, in it I found some information
    about the use of feathers in armor. Here are the most relevant parts from
    this book:

    Body armor:

    "The war suit (tlahuiztli suit) encased not only the torso but the arms
    and legs as well in long sleeves and leggings... These suits were not
    padded but were worn overthe cotton armor... Despite appearing like
    animal skins, the suits of noble warriors were made of feathers sewn to a
    backing fabric. ... The feathered garments were finer and of higher
    status. The slick surface of the feathers may have offered greater
    protection than would skins, especially against glancing blows, and
    depending on the backing, these suits were probably lighter and cooler.
    Over their cotton armor some warriors ... wore feather tunics (ehuatl)...
    The tunic was fashioned of cloth over which feathers were set in rows. It
    had a hanging border of feathers and it resisted lances, arrows and even
    swords [114]. "
    from R. Hassig, "Aztec Warfare", p. 88
    [114] is Anonymous Conquerer 1963:169; Duran, 1967 "Historia de las Indias
    de Nueva Espana"

    Shields were also covered with feathers:

    "One shield ... was made of stout reeds covered with gold and the back was
    lined with jaguar skin. The lower part of the shield was decorated with a
    feather fringe that hung down more than a palma (0.209 meters). The
    hanging border of feathers was a common feature , and, though appearing
    fragile, it afforded additional protection to the user's legs [91]. Such
    feather fringes could easily stop a spent projectile and deflect others,
    and the feature predates the Aztecs, being depicted in murals at the
    classic site of Cacaxtlan, at Teotihuacan, and among the classic Maya.
    They were probably intended primarily fpr protection against projectiles
    and not against clubs or swords."
    from R. Hassig, "Aztec Warfare", p. 86
    Reference [91] is T.D. Sullivan, "The Arms and Insignia of the

    So it seems that, yes, Aztecs did use feathers in their armors as means of

    In addition to the Aztecs, it was pointed out to me that

    feathered helmets, insignia and
    standards were an integral part of the Hawaiian culture of warfare, particularly
    from the Proto-Historic Period onward.

    "Ali`i were distinguished from the common people by their access to a variety of
    status goods and insig­nia, such as the magnificent feather cloaks, capes, and
    helmets, and the chiefly neck ornament, the lei niho palaoa."

    Patrick Vinton Kirch. 1997 (page 6. See also page 307) Feathered Gods and
    Fishhooks: An Introduction to Hawaiian Archaeology and Prehistory. University of
    Hawaii Press, Honolulu, Hawaii ISBN 0-8248-1938-1

    "As Captain Cook's men learned from personal experience, the feathered capes and
    helmets were "battle apparel." The cape might be worn over the shoulders, but in
    battle it was pulled around the left side of the body and held forward with the
    left hand to snag a thrust from a dagger or the point of a thrown spear. In this
    position the right arm was exposed and free to wield a weapon. Feathers were
    black, white, red, yellow, green, and the long rust-red and black feathers of
    the fighting cock. These were tied over a light netting of cord in a great
    variety of designs. In battle, the brilliant capes helped warriors identify and
    rally to their chiefs. Helmets made of strong, light weight basketry protected
    the head from the impact of stones shot from slings."

    Herb Kawainui Kane. 1997 (page 46) Ancient Hawaii. The Kawainui Press, South
    Kona, Hawaii ISBN 0943357-02-0

    So, to conclude: Feathers were used as body armor, and even in a
    functional way, not just for decoration.
    (Although it would be nice to find out how good they really
    were - anyone involved in experimemntal archeology interested?)

    Once again, thanks to everyone who helped with answering this question
    (and sorry for the long delay in answering).



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    > Dear all
    > Not too long ago I remember reading a query about the possible use of feathers as defence accessories, or perhaphs as some part of the armour of the south American Indians etc.
    > I wonder what resulted from this debate and what the state of play of this topic is? Were feathers used to soften blows, or to blunt the cutting action of swords? What is the nature of the evidence? anecdotal? documented?
    > kind regards
    > Dr Peter Zioupos
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