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Dear biomch-l netters,
I thought I would take the time to post a quick sample of the responses I
received after posting the message below, especially since other
"advertising" came across about the same time. I am hoping this may help
others decide what is "disseminating useful information" and what is "junk
mail". I deleted all the names, save for the moderator's message. Thank you
for all your comments.
On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Julianne Abendroth-Smith wrote:
> Hi biomch-L netters;
>
> Thank you to all who have responded with interest about the
> labs. I personally would like to know what other "small potato" professors
> are developing to help in their teaching and research endeavors, so those
> of us without much funding would have other sources to turn to.
> How does the network feel about this? If it is too close to
> advertising, again I apologize for the space I have taken up.
Here is a summary- all positive, by the way, so we have a much more
friendly group than we sometimes give each other credit for - at least when
we use the network appropriately.
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I don't think this is too close to advertising. This is news,
and Biomch-L is a good medium to disseminate such information.
The tone of the message is very important, though. And the
length. You may have noticed Gideon Ariel's messages in the
past. This kind of advertising was not tolerated on Biomch-L.
-- Ton van den Bogert, Biomch-L moderator
Regarding the individual who complained about advertising a commercial product
on the network: I'm on your side. I think there is a void in the area of unde
rgraduate biomechanics labs, and many individuals are looking for help
in this area. Whether commercial or not, people need to know what's out there
..think that advertisement of educational material is not inappropriate use of
Biomch-l, although some of our more 'uptight' colleagues do. This community
is in dire need of good educational material.
If that isn't what the network is for than what is it for?
I, personally, saw nothing wrong with your message to Biomech-L. Of
course, my shorts probably aren't starched as much as most people on the
mailing list.
As a biomch-l subscriber and scientist at a small, underfunded,
undergraduate University, I have been looking forward to your
findings concerning the 'small potatoes' labs. There are a lot
more of 'us' out there than there are of the 'big kahunas'. The
purpose of our work, i.e., education more than research, is so
vital that its importance is self-evident. In other words, I
think that your use of Biomch-l is entirely appropriate.
..I did not even think that your advertisement was commercial. I
perceived it as more of a sharing of information. Finally, I think the
general comments by the moderators were not directed towards you. I think
they were directed towards the posting yesterday (I can't even remember
what it was about because I deleted it). It was about something that was
obviously commercial when I read it. So hang in there, and don't be
discouraged or intimindated into not
posting something that may be of interest or valuable to a lot of us out
there.
I particularly like the "small potato professors" :-)
You are absolutely right!
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Thanks again for the feedback.
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Julianne Abendroth-Smith, EdD
Utah State University
Dept. of HPER
Logan UT 84322-7000
(801) 797-1486
Fax: (801) 797-3759
E-mail: JabSmith@cc.usu.edu
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I thought I would take the time to post a quick sample of the responses I
received after posting the message below, especially since other
"advertising" came across about the same time. I am hoping this may help
others decide what is "disseminating useful information" and what is "junk
mail". I deleted all the names, save for the moderator's message. Thank you
for all your comments.
On Tue, 15 Nov 1994, Julianne Abendroth-Smith wrote:
> Hi biomch-L netters;
>
> Thank you to all who have responded with interest about the
> labs. I personally would like to know what other "small potato" professors
> are developing to help in their teaching and research endeavors, so those
> of us without much funding would have other sources to turn to.
> How does the network feel about this? If it is too close to
> advertising, again I apologize for the space I have taken up.
Here is a summary- all positive, by the way, so we have a much more
friendly group than we sometimes give each other credit for - at least when
we use the network appropriately.
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
I don't think this is too close to advertising. This is news,
and Biomch-L is a good medium to disseminate such information.
The tone of the message is very important, though. And the
length. You may have noticed Gideon Ariel's messages in the
past. This kind of advertising was not tolerated on Biomch-L.
-- Ton van den Bogert, Biomch-L moderator
Regarding the individual who complained about advertising a commercial product
on the network: I'm on your side. I think there is a void in the area of unde
rgraduate biomechanics labs, and many individuals are looking for help
in this area. Whether commercial or not, people need to know what's out there
..think that advertisement of educational material is not inappropriate use of
Biomch-l, although some of our more 'uptight' colleagues do. This community
is in dire need of good educational material.
If that isn't what the network is for than what is it for?
I, personally, saw nothing wrong with your message to Biomech-L. Of
course, my shorts probably aren't starched as much as most people on the
mailing list.
As a biomch-l subscriber and scientist at a small, underfunded,
undergraduate University, I have been looking forward to your
findings concerning the 'small potatoes' labs. There are a lot
more of 'us' out there than there are of the 'big kahunas'. The
purpose of our work, i.e., education more than research, is so
vital that its importance is self-evident. In other words, I
think that your use of Biomch-l is entirely appropriate.
..I did not even think that your advertisement was commercial. I
perceived it as more of a sharing of information. Finally, I think the
general comments by the moderators were not directed towards you. I think
they were directed towards the posting yesterday (I can't even remember
what it was about because I deleted it). It was about something that was
obviously commercial when I read it. So hang in there, and don't be
discouraged or intimindated into not
posting something that may be of interest or valuable to a lot of us out
there.
I particularly like the "small potato professors" :-)
You are absolutely right!
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Thanks again for the feedback.
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Julianne Abendroth-Smith, EdD
Utah State University
Dept. of HPER
Logan UT 84322-7000
(801) 797-1486
Fax: (801) 797-3759
E-mail: JabSmith@cc.usu.edu
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