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    Dear netters,

    Great thanks to people who answered us about surfacique model of the head.
    We are working on a system designed for "locked in" syndrom peoples. Those peoples
    can only move their eyes. With E.O.G we are able to record their eye movements and
    then to allow them to make move a mouse on a computer screen. They can select icons or
    letters and then are able to comunicate or to drive their bed, tv...
    Our problem is to design a sort of pair of glasses to applicate electrodes on the skin
    arround the eye. That's why we need data for head anthropomethry.
    My original message and the responses I got follow.

    S. Bouilland
    Bouilland@univ-valenciennes.fr
    L.A.M.I.H.
    Universite de Valenciennes
    France.

    Dear suscribers,

    In order to design a sort of pair of glasses to record eyes movements of "locked
    in syndrom" people we need a surfacic model of head and specially of face, for a
    standard man and for a standard woman. We are looking for data permitting to
    build this model or for existing model readable with the software CATIA. We
    would be grateful to those of you who would provide us with such a model or who
    would give us sugestions about where to find such data.
    Few peoples asked me to give more details about what is a surfacic model of
    head. What we are looking for are anthropometric data of face permitting to
    build a CAD model. We need a data base of points describing the surface of head
    of a man, woman and children. If it's possible we would prefer to get existing
    model readable with standard CAD software such CATIA,EUCLID,AUTOCAD....
    We would be very grateful to anybody able to indicate us where to find those
    data or models.

    Thank you very much,

    Stephane BOUILLAND

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    Dear Stephane Bouilland,

    I think I have what you are looking for. I am working with a 3-D head
    scanner providing a data base of head models which I am using for
    psychophysical face recognition experiments and for modeling
    purposes. You find a very brief description in WWW calling
    http://mpik-tueb.mpg.de:4711 and then my personal page.

    I would like to know what you are working on.

    Niko
    Dr. Nikolaus Troje
    MPI fuer biologische Kybernetik
    Spemannstr. 38
    D-72076 Tuebingen, Germany
    FON: +49-7071/601-621
    FAX: +49-7071/601-575
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    From: SMTP%"bermond@URANUS.inrets.fr" 25-JAN-1995 11:09:32.05
    To: bouilland
    CC:
    Subj: Response to looking for surfacic model of head (bis)


    Dear Suscribers,


    I can give you an address
    Viewpoint DataLabs
    870 West Center Street
    Orem, Utah 84057

    or call 1800 DATASET (328 27 38)
    or call 801 224 2222
    or fax 801 224 2272

    They propose surfacic mesh of a lot of things and also of the head, I suppose it works with Autocad, and the price is correct.

    REmarks INRETS propose a paper at the last ESV Conference at Munich 1994 about a first study for the human face, if you any more information don't hesitate to contact me.


    Francois Bermond INRETS-LBSU
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    From: SMTP%"ortcsr@oise.on.ca" 25-JAN-1995 14:11:31.54
    To: bouilland
    CC:
    Subj: Anthropometric profiles of the face

    Dear Stephane,

    A few years ago, I was involved in the development of a protective helmet
    for children with seizure disorders. A 1981 reference I found useful was
    "Anthropometry of the head and face in medicine" by L.G.Farkas (a
    Canadian doctor working at the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto,
    Canada). It provide detailed scalar facial measurements of children. We
    also found the ISO standard (1983) "Headforms for use in the testing of
    protective helmets - ISO 620.1" to give use useful data regarding
    profiles of the cranial area for different head circumferences.
    Perhaps this information will get you started? At the time, our CAD
    modelling capability was limited.
    I hope this helps you out.
    Regards.
    Steve Ryan, P.Eng.
    The Hugh MacMillan Rehabilitation Centre
    Toronto, Ontario, CANADA
    E-Mail: ortcsr@oise.on.ca
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    From: SMTP%"BillH4740@aol.com" 25-JAN-1995 17:26:15.11
    To: bouilland
    CC:
    Subj: Re: looking for surfacic mode...

    Contact Viewpoint in Salt Lake City Utah. Phone 801-224-2222, FAX
    801-224-2272. They have a very detailed (30,000x30,000 polygon) rendition
    of a human head in male and female.

    Good Luck,

    Bill Hand
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    From: SMTP%"Matt@biosci.umtri.umich.edu" 26-JAN-1995 21:12:50.87
    To: bouilland
    CC:
    Subj: Head/Face Data

    The following anthro study of U.S. military personnel, which
    has a large male and female sample size, contains measures
    that may be of use to you in describing the geometry of the
    head and face.


    Gordon, C. C., Churchill, T., Clauser, C. E., Bradtmiller, B.,
    McConville, J. T., Tebbetts, I., and Walker, R. A. (1989).
    1988 anthropometric survey of U.S. Army personnel: Methods and
    summary statistics. Final report (NATICK/TR-89/027). Natick,
    MA: U.S. Army Natick Research, Development and Engineering
    Center.


    Matt Reed
    Senior Research Associate
    University of Michigan
    Transportation Research Institute
    matt@biosci.umtri.umich.edu
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    From: SMTP%"TimothyBarker" 27-JAN-1995 08:44:28.85
    To: bouilland
    CC:
    Subj: Web site for 3D reconstruction found

    G'day all,

    >From time to time people request information on existing medical image
    datasets which lurk on the Internet.

    You might like to check out the following World Wide Web site, which was
    recently mentioned on the newsgroup comp.graphics.visualization. The site is :

    http://biocomp.arc.nasa.gov/3dreconstruction

    Happy reading & viewing !

    Regards,

    Tim Barker
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    You should talk to a craneofacial surgeon. There is supposed to be a big book
    with "normal" data on faces and heads with all sorts of measurements.
    If you are desperate, you should do a SCI search on Court Cutting from NYU.
    I saw a talk by him last year where he mentioned this data. I believe he
    is a Craneofacial surgeon.
    Neil
    --
    N. Glossop, Ph.D.,
    Toronto, Canada

    neil@isgtec.com
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    From: SMTP%"pklein@resulb.ulb.ac.be" 30-JAN-1995 08:02:32.86
    To: bouilland
    CC:
    Subj: Re: looking for surfacic model of head (bis)

    Dear Mr. Bouilland

    your mesage:
    .. We need a data base of points describing the surface of head

    You should try to contact a Society called: Surface topography and body
    deformity". Each two years there is a symposium dealing with the subject.
    I participated in 1988 at a meeting in Vienna. A book has been published
    under the same name, edited by Neugebauer and Windischbauer, Gustav Fischer
    Verlag, Stuttgart, New York, 1990 - ISBN 3-437-11242-2.

    pp 211-221:
    Covray G. Pflug L., Rheims D., Haenni H., Gottraux P.
    Face topography analysis
    Ecole Polytechnique de Lausanne

    pp 217-221:
    Coombes A.M.,Linney A.D., Grindrot S.R., Mosse C.A., Moss J.-P.
    3-D measurement of the face for the simulation of facial surgery.
    Dept. of Medical Physics and Orthodontics
    University College of London 11-20, Capper Street
    London WC1E6JA

    Good Luck
    Paul
    Paul
    ******************************************
    * Klein Paul Ph.D. *
    * Free University of Brussels *
    * CP 168, Avenue P. Heger, 28 *
    * 1050 Brussels, Belgium *
    * *
    * Phone 32-2-6502470 Fax: 32-2-6502473 *
    * pklein@resulb.ulb.ac.be *
    ******************************************
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    From: SMTP%"osteoknt@osteokinetics.com" 30-JAN-1995 08:44:25.52
    To: bouilland
    CC:
    Subj: Re: looking for surfacic model of head (bis)


    Dear Stephane BOUILLAND:

    Our company sells the Inertiator[TM] system that measures the
    anthropometric properties of body segments, based on the frontal and
    lateral images of the body segment. The system assumes a uniform density
    of the body segment. If this is of
    interest to you, please send us your complete mailing address, and
    we will gladly mail you an information package.

    Sincerely,

    Yael Yona
    OsteoKinetics Corporation
    82 Stuart Road
    Newton, MA 02159
    USA
    Ph: (617) 332-5954
    FAX: (617) 965-0383
    e-mail: osteoknt@osteokinetics.com

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    From: SMTP%"IVMEMOL@HDETUD2.TUDELFT.NL" 30-JAN-1995 14:24:44.01
    To: bouilland
    CC:
    Subj: Re: looking for surfacic model of head (bis)

    Dear Stefane,
    I have two names for you.
    1. Prof George Vosselman has shown is his oration at our university
    a picture of a surface model of the head, made by photogrammetry
    His email is: vosselman@geo.tudelft.nl.
    2. Prof Coblenz of the Universite Rene Descartes Paris has with his
    staff a.o. Mollard have published about 3D-surface of the head
    and the whole body. See for example in the Proceedings of the
    Biostereometrics'85 editd by A.M. Coblentz, Robin E. Heron
    and publisehd by the SPIE The international society for optic
    engineering PO Box 10 Bellingham Washington 98227 -0010 USA
    phone 206/676-3290 telex 46-7053
    I have corresponded with Mr Mollard at the address:
    Anthropologie Appliquee, 45 rue des Saints Peres 75270 Paris Cedex
    phone (33) 142862036 fax (33) 142615380
    with kind regards

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