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Many thanks to all who replied to my posting.
My original posting was:
Hi all,
we are planning a project to simulate the motion of horses.
Therefore I search for biomechanical modeling software to develop a
musculoskeletal model of a horse. I will post a summary of all
replies.
Many thanks in advance
Christian Peham
And this is the summary of the replies.
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Wolfgang Paganis answer:
Hi Christian,
I saw that you are looking for software dealing with analysing motion.
I know were you can find what you need.
Go to: http://www.simi.net
There you will find everything you need and the software is very very
good. I have made some experiences with it and it was amazing how
exact and reliable the program was.
yours sincerely
Wolfgang Pagani
Date sent: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 12:45:26 +0200
From: Wolfgang Pagani
Organization: FH Muenchen
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Lydgia A. Jarvis wrote:
Date sent: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:32:05 -0600
To: Christian.Peham@vu-wien.ac.at
From: "Lydgia A. Jarvis"
Subject: biomechanical modeling software
Dear Christian:
You might be interested in SIMM and the Dynamics Pipeline. These
software packages are used in over 50 major biomechanics labs around
the world to simulate human and animal motions. SIMM can definitely
be used to model the horse. In fact, I believe the group at
University of California, Davis, has begun development of the model
of the horse. You can review models being developed with SIMM in our
website SIMM Image Gallery at
http://www.musculographics.com/gallery.htm/
Please feel free to contact me with further questions.
With best regards,
Lydgia
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Ms. Lydgia A. Jarvis MusculoGraphics, Inc.
Marketing & Operations Assistant 1840 Oak Avenue
lydgia@musculographics.com Evanston, IL 60201
http://www.musculographics.com tel(847)866-1877
fax(847)866-1808
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Victoria Haehl wrote:
Christian
I have done some 2-D kinematic analyses of the movement of the horse's
and rider's backs (sagittal plane), and would be interested in
learning more. I am involved in hippotherapy (physical therapys using
the movement of the horse to treat individuals with a wide variety of
movement disorders). My future endeavor may include doing some
modeling of the horse and rider's backs. What sort of modeling are
you interested in? I would like to hear more! Victoria
Victoria Haehl
Indiana University
Department of Kinesiology
HPER Room 112
Bloomington, IN 47405
(812)855-0361
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Ton van den Bogert wrote:
Christian,
Mike Swanstrom at UC Davis is using SIMM. See:
http://mae.engr.ucdavis.edu/~biosport/horses
Victor Ng at Univ. of Toronto uses SD/FAST and his
own animation software. See:
http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/people/victorng/research.html
Also see the ISB/TGCS page for addresses of software vendors:
http://www.bme.ccf.org/isb/tgcs/software
-- Ton van den Bogert
Department of Biomedical Engineering
The Cleveland Clinic Foundation
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Barry O'Flynn wrote:
From: "Barry O'Flynn"
To: "'Christian.Peham@VU-WIEN.AC.AT'"
Subject: Motion Analysis Date
sent: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:45:56 +0100
Hello Christian
>From my understanding, there are two major packages available on
the market for animation - the first is Musculographics SIMM software,
and the second is 3D Studio Max, which is a complete modelling
package. Manyu of our animation customer use 3D Max.
Barry
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Geoffrey Walsh wrote:
Do you know of the work of Trist Roberts . I could probably get you a
reference to his work. He is very knowledgable about the various
'gears' of horses --
Email -
Geoffrey.Walsh@ed.ac.uk
http://www.ed.ac.uk/~gwalsh
Phone (0)131.664.3046
64, Liberton Drive,
Edinburgh
EH16 6NW
U.K.
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Bastien Richard wrote:
Try to get in touch with Mont Hubbard in UC Davis. I guess he has
done something in this area.
Mailto:mhubbard@ucdavis.edu Richard
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Sara Stabelfeldt wrote:
3VP3STABELFE@vmsb.csd.mu.edu
Hi!
Right now I'm using a musculoskeletal modeling software package
called
SIMM (Software for Interactive musculoskeletal modeling) put out by
Musculographics. It is a useful tool for simulating motion and
determining muscle forces and joint moments, etc. Hope that helps.
Sara Stabelfeldt
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Hi Christian,
I cannot answer your question directly, but there was a lecture
presented at the pre-ESB meeting in Montlignon in 1993 entitled
"Persival" a horse simulator (an original example of
experimental-numerial simulation
T. Dronak (1), N. Richard (2), P. Galloux (3), and M Leard (2)
(1) AFASEC/PERSIVAL, Allee de Jardy, 60631 Chantilly
(2) LAII, Avenue du Recteur Pineau, 86000 Poitiers
(3) ENE, Bureau de recherches, Terrefort, 49499 Saumur
The paper seems to be at least partly base on the thesis of
Monsieur Richard "Edude et modelisation des allures equestres,
application a la commande d'un simulateur equestre" from the
Universite de Poitiers (1993)
May be they are willing to share their know-how...
Greetings,
Pierre
______________
Pierre Hubsch Dept of Bio-Medical Engineering
Technion - Israel Institute of Technology Haifa 32000
Israel tel 972-4-8294124
************************************************** *******************
Dear Christian
You should contact Mr. James Fee jr. He has started such research
years ago. E-mail: fee@asel.udel.edu Prof. Ing. Dusan SIMSIK, PhD.
Department of Biomedical Engineering Mechanical Engineering Faculty
Technical university of Kosice Letna 9, 04187 Kosice SLOVAKIA Tel: 421
95 6255796, Fax: 421 95 63 32748, E-mail: simsik@ccsun.tuke.sk
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Many Thanks
Christian
************************************************** ******
* Dr.Christian Peham
* email: Christian.Peham@vu-wien.ac.at
* Clinic for Orthopaedics in Ungulates
* Locomotion Research Group
* University of Veterinary Medicine Vienna
* Phone: +43-1-250 77/5506; Fax: +43-1-250 77/5590
* Josef Baumanngasse 1; A-1210 Wien
* http://www.vu-wien.ac.at/i111
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My original posting was:
Hi all,
we are planning a project to simulate the motion of horses.
Therefore I search for biomechanical modeling software to develop a
musculoskeletal model of a horse. I will post a summary of all
replies.
Many thanks in advance
Christian Peham
And this is the summary of the replies.
************************************************** *******************
Wolfgang Paganis answer:
Hi Christian,
I saw that you are looking for software dealing with analysing motion.
I know were you can find what you need.
Go to: http://www.simi.net
There you will find everything you need and the software is very very
good. I have made some experiences with it and it was amazing how
exact and reliable the program was.
yours sincerely
Wolfgang Pagani
Date sent: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 12:45:26 +0200
From: Wolfgang Pagani
Organization: FH Muenchen
************************************************** *******************
Lydgia A. Jarvis wrote:
Date sent: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:32:05 -0600
To: Christian.Peham@vu-wien.ac.at
From: "Lydgia A. Jarvis"
Subject: biomechanical modeling software
Dear Christian:
You might be interested in SIMM and the Dynamics Pipeline. These
software packages are used in over 50 major biomechanics labs around
the world to simulate human and animal motions. SIMM can definitely
be used to model the horse. In fact, I believe the group at
University of California, Davis, has begun development of the model
of the horse. You can review models being developed with SIMM in our
website SIMM Image Gallery at
http://www.musculographics.com/gallery.htm/
Please feel free to contact me with further questions.
With best regards,
Lydgia
************************************************** ************
Ms. Lydgia A. Jarvis MusculoGraphics, Inc.
Marketing & Operations Assistant 1840 Oak Avenue
lydgia@musculographics.com Evanston, IL 60201
http://www.musculographics.com tel(847)866-1877
fax(847)866-1808
************************************************** ************
************************************************** *******************
Victoria Haehl wrote:
Christian
I have done some 2-D kinematic analyses of the movement of the horse's
and rider's backs (sagittal plane), and would be interested in
learning more. I am involved in hippotherapy (physical therapys using
the movement of the horse to treat individuals with a wide variety of
movement disorders). My future endeavor may include doing some
modeling of the horse and rider's backs. What sort of modeling are
you interested in? I would like to hear more! Victoria
Victoria Haehl
Indiana University
Department of Kinesiology
HPER Room 112
Bloomington, IN 47405
(812)855-0361
************************************************** *******************
Ton van den Bogert wrote:
Christian,
Mike Swanstrom at UC Davis is using SIMM. See:
http://mae.engr.ucdavis.edu/~biosport/horses
Victor Ng at Univ. of Toronto uses SD/FAST and his
own animation software. See:
http://www.dgp.toronto.edu/people/victorng/research.html
Also see the ISB/TGCS page for addresses of software vendors:
http://www.bme.ccf.org/isb/tgcs/software
-- Ton van den Bogert
Department of Biomedical Engineering
The Cleveland Clinic Foundation
************************************************** *******************
Barry O'Flynn wrote:
From: "Barry O'Flynn"
To: "'Christian.Peham@VU-WIEN.AC.AT'"
Subject: Motion Analysis Date
sent: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:45:56 +0100
Hello Christian
>From my understanding, there are two major packages available on
the market for animation - the first is Musculographics SIMM software,
and the second is 3D Studio Max, which is a complete modelling
package. Manyu of our animation customer use 3D Max.
Barry
************************************************** *******************
Geoffrey Walsh wrote:
Do you know of the work of Trist Roberts . I could probably get you a
reference to his work. He is very knowledgable about the various
'gears' of horses --
Email -
Geoffrey.Walsh@ed.ac.uk
http://www.ed.ac.uk/~gwalsh
Phone (0)131.664.3046
64, Liberton Drive,
Edinburgh
EH16 6NW
U.K.
************************************************** *******************
Bastien Richard wrote:
Try to get in touch with Mont Hubbard in UC Davis. I guess he has
done something in this area.
Mailto:mhubbard@ucdavis.edu Richard
************************************************** *******************
Sara Stabelfeldt wrote:
3VP3STABELFE@vmsb.csd.mu.edu
Hi!
Right now I'm using a musculoskeletal modeling software package
called
SIMM (Software for Interactive musculoskeletal modeling) put out by
Musculographics. It is a useful tool for simulating motion and
determining muscle forces and joint moments, etc. Hope that helps.
Sara Stabelfeldt
************************************************** *******************
Hi Christian,
I cannot answer your question directly, but there was a lecture
presented at the pre-ESB meeting in Montlignon in 1993 entitled
"Persival" a horse simulator (an original example of
experimental-numerial simulation
T. Dronak (1), N. Richard (2), P. Galloux (3), and M Leard (2)
(1) AFASEC/PERSIVAL, Allee de Jardy, 60631 Chantilly
(2) LAII, Avenue du Recteur Pineau, 86000 Poitiers
(3) ENE, Bureau de recherches, Terrefort, 49499 Saumur
The paper seems to be at least partly base on the thesis of
Monsieur Richard "Edude et modelisation des allures equestres,
application a la commande d'un simulateur equestre" from the
Universite de Poitiers (1993)
May be they are willing to share their know-how...
Greetings,
Pierre
______________
Pierre Hubsch Dept of Bio-Medical Engineering
Technion - Israel Institute of Technology Haifa 32000
Israel tel 972-4-8294124
************************************************** *******************
Dear Christian
You should contact Mr. James Fee jr. He has started such research
years ago. E-mail: fee@asel.udel.edu Prof. Ing. Dusan SIMSIK, PhD.
Department of Biomedical Engineering Mechanical Engineering Faculty
Technical university of Kosice Letna 9, 04187 Kosice SLOVAKIA Tel: 421
95 6255796, Fax: 421 95 63 32748, E-mail: simsik@ccsun.tuke.sk
************************************************** *******************
Many Thanks
Christian
************************************************** ******
* Dr.Christian Peham
* email: Christian.Peham@vu-wien.ac.at
* Clinic for Orthopaedics in Ungulates
* Locomotion Research Group
* University of Veterinary Medicine Vienna
* Phone: +43-1-250 77/5506; Fax: +43-1-250 77/5590
* Josef Baumanngasse 1; A-1210 Wien
* http://www.vu-wien.ac.at/i111
************************************************** ******
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