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    SUMMARY: What can a biomechanist do?
    Eleven (11) responses were received and discussion has wained to this
    question:

    Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 08:06:23 -0700
    From: Martha Jack
    To: BIOMCH-L@NIC.SURFNET.NL
    Newsgroups: bit.listserv.biomch-l
    Subject: What can a biomechanist do?

    A few years ago a question was posed to the ISB membership via the
    neweletter as to "What do we call ourselves?"

    In that same vain, I would like to pose the question: "What can a
    biomechanical engineer do?"

    I will offer my analytical outline and you may contribute to the analysis.
    A summary will be posted when discussion has ended.

    BIOMECHANICS
    -Sports Biomechanics
    -Gait Lab and Analysis
    -Orthopaedic Biomechanics:
    Prosthetic design and analysis
    Rehabilitation
    Instrumentation design
    -Industrial Biomechanics:
    Ergonomics - evaluation, analysis
    Safety analysis and Risk assessment
    ADA interpretation
    Architecture, Construction
    -Forensic Biomechanics:
    Vehicle crashworthiness
    Failure investigation and reconstruction
    Expert witness
    BIOMEDICAL ENGINEERING, BIOENGINEERING
    -Cardiac Rehabilitation
    -Stress Testing
    -Metabolic Measurement
    -Research
    -Rehabilitation
    -Instrumentation Technician
    __________________________________________________ ____________________
    Martha Jack, Ph.D. E-mail: mjack@beta.tricity.wsu.edu
    Biomechanical Engineer Voice: (509) 943-0043
    ___o P.O. Box 776 FAX: (509) 943-4642 ___o
    _ \ A summary will be posted when discussion has ended.

    As a microbiologist, I can't really contribute to this discussion, except
    on an anecdotal basis (which is why I send this to you instead of the
    list). I used to work with a fellow who was getting his PhD in
    Bioengineering, whose research project was funded by the air force. He was
    trying to develop a better helmet for fighter pilots - one that would
    protect the pilot's head from the impacts with the plane's interior as a
    result of the incredible g-forces, but would also maintains its own
    integrity (unlike a motorcycle helmet that is designed to take the impact
    by falling apart). I could not really find a spot on your list that this
    seemed to fall under.

    Candy Krepel
    Surgical Microbiology Research Lab, Medical College of Wisconsin
    ckrepel@post.its.mcw.edu
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    (3) From Peter Meyer:
    Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 12:27:41 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Peter Meyer
    To: Martha Jack
    Subject: Re: What can a biomechanist do?

    I must disagree on you characterization of Biomedical Engineering.
    Biomedical Engineering is simply the application of engineering principles
    to medicine. There may be considerable overlap with Bioengineering, which
    is properly defined as the application of engineering principles to
    biology. Biomedical Engineering and Bioengineering are often used
    interchangeably, albeit incorrectly.

    Biomedical Engineers are a found in all the categories you have assigned
    to Biomechanists, as well as huge number of other fields such as
    biorheology, cell mechanics, neural engineering, and biomolecular
    engineering. The Biomedical Engineering Society (BMES) can provide a
    broader list although it is still incomplete.

    Biomedical Engineers in biomechanics are distinguished from Biomechanists
    in their training as engineers and their need for quantitative rather than
    qualitative solutions. Conversely, a Biomechanist can be considered a
    biomedical engineer to the extent that they apply engineering principles
    to their work. Hence, our laboratory employs many researchers who hold
    non-engineering degrees and yet are obviously Biomedical Engineers.

    It is also important to note that your listing of biomechanical fields
    neglects the microscopic: biorheology, tissue mechanics, cellular
    mechanics, bio-thermodynamics, etc. These all fall under the proper
    definition of Biomechanics.
    __________________________________________________ _______________________
    Peter F. Meyer 44 Cummington Street
    Dept. of Biomedical Engineering Boston, MA 02215
    NeuroMuscular Research Center (617) 353-9633 (617) 353-5737 Fax
    Boston University pmeyer@bu.edu
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    (4) From Douglas Chang:
    Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 09:56:39 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Douglas Chang
    To: mjack@BETA.TRICITY.WSU.EDU
    Subject: Re: What can a biomechanist do?

    Here are some areas that you can add to your list (culled from the
    biomedical engineering department at USC)

    Doug

    http://www.usc.edu/dept/biomed/BMSR/Research/coreres.html
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    (5) From Arnel Aguinaldo:
    Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 10:46:28 -0700
    From: Arnel Aguinaldo
    To: mjack@beta.tricity.wsu.edu
    Subject: Your question...

    Dear Dr. Martha Jack:

    I believe your question is a valid one and definitely needs addressing.
    The field of bioengineering has grown to be a very broad and innovative
    field. Yet, it is often misunderstood and, sometimes, less "respected" -
    for lack of a better word - than the other engineering disciplines (i.e.,
    electrical, mechanical). I'll attempt to summarize what I feel is the
    core identity of bioengineering and, specfically, biomechanical
    engineering:

    BIOENGINEERING - intergration of engineering and biomedical sciences with
    the fundamental goal of understanding the relationships between tissue
    structure and function, thus, improving the methods of prevention,
    diagnosis, and treatment of diseases.

    BIOMECHANICS - application of engineering principles towards biological
    systems (Fung's definition).

    The major areas of application cover a spectrum consisting of the
    following levels (with examples):

    Molecular - genetic engineering, electrophysiology
    Cellular - hemodynamics, biophysics
    Tissue - muscle mechanics, cardiac mechanics
    Organismal - osteokinematics, arthrokinematics

    All of these applications vary in some way depending on the external
    practice (i.e., academic, industrial, forensic, sports, instrumentation,
    etc.). Some people would say that biomechanical engineers study the
    movements and forces acted on and by the various joints and parts of the
    human body. Although this is true, I believe an understanding of the
    biomechanics involved with the smaller levels of the above spectrum is
    also
    key in identifying what we do.

    I hope this helps our little discussion. I, too, often find myself lost
    for words in explaining this field to the next person, especially to
    someone like my neighbor or grandma! A simple explanation is often the
    best explanation...

    Thanks much,

    +=========================================+
    Arnel Aguinaldo (aaguinaldo@abellabs.com)
    Research Engineer
    Abel Laboratories, Inc.
    Institute for Biomedical Engineering, U.C. San Diego
    +=========================================+
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    (6) From Nat Ordway:
    Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 14:46:34 -0400
    From: Nat Ordway
    To: Martha Jack
    Subject: Re: What can a biomechanist do?

    A couple of other areas I was thinking of dealing with Fluid Mechanics:

    Cardiac Biomechanics - Blood flow, heart valves, prosthetic hearts, etc
    Pulmonary Biomechanics - Gas flow through airways, artificial lungs, etc.
    Renal Biomechanics

    Also, there is the emerging area of cellular biomechanics.

    I'm a little confused by your question. You ask "what can a biomech eng
    do?". There are certainly many "things" a biomech eng can do like go on to
    medical school, law school (like patent law). So do you mean what
    areas/topics does Biomechanics cover?

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    Nathaniel Ordway, MS, PE
    Assistant Professor
    Department of Orthopedic Surgery
    SUNY Health Science Center
    750 E. Adams St
    Syracuse, New York 13210

    mailtordwayn@hscsyr.edu
    voice: (315) 464-6462
    fax: (315) 464-6638
    www: http://www.ec.hscsyr.edu/ortho/
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    (7) From Hartmut Witte:
    Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 18:01:29 MET -1
    From: Hartmut Witte
    Reply-To: Hartmut.F.Witte@gmx.net
    To: mjack@BETA.TRICITY.WSU.EDU
    Subject: Re: What can a biomechanist do?

    All the items you gave are applied biomechanics! What about functional
    morphology (->anatomy, ->physiology, ->zoology), historically and still
    nowadays the base of our common scientific home named "biomechanics"?

    Hartmut Witte
    __________________________________________________ _________

    PD Dipl.-Ing. (mach.) Dr. med. (habil.) Hartmut Witte
    Facharzt fuer Anatomie
    DFG-Schwerpunktprogramm "Autonomes Laufen"
    Institut fuer Spezielle Zoologie und Evolutionsbiologie
    mit Phyletischem Museum
    Erbertstrasse 1
    D-07743 Jena

    Hartmut.F.Witte@gmx.de

    Fon ++49 3641 949 158 (university)
    ++49 3641 212 483 (D-07745 Jena, Ernst-Haeckel-Platz 1)
    ++49 2363 345 35 (D-45711 Datteln, Pestalozzistrasse 25)
    ++49 172 7951 255 (D2-handy)

    Fax ++49 3641 949 142 (university)
    ++49 2363 35170 (on demand in Datteln)
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    (8) From Alena Hagedorn:
    Date: 27 May 1998 16:50:02 -0400
    From: "Hagedorn, Alena "

    To: IPM Return requested
    Subject: Re: What can a biomechanist do?

    Automotive safety - occupant biomechanics and crash test dummy design,
    develop ment, evaluation

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    (9) From Chris Kirtley:
    Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 09:35:15 +0800
    From: "Dr. Chris Kirtley (Kwok Kei Chi)"
    To: Martha Jack
    Subject: Re: What can a biomechanist do?

    Dear Martha,

    I work in a Department teaching physiotherapists, although I'm a medical
    doctor with a PhD in bio-engineering. There was an abstract published a
    few years ago which addresses the issue:

    Pidcoe PE(1993) "The role of a bioengineer in an academic physical therapy
    setting" Physical Therapy 73(6): S98

    To be controversial, I would say that my role is to try to get
    physiotherapists to understand just how extraordinarily complex human
    movement really is!

    Chris
    --
    Dr. Chris Kirtley MD PhD
    Dept. of Rehabilitation Sciences
    The Hong Kong Polytechnic University
    Hong Kong
    Special Administrative Region of The People's Republic of China

    Tel: +852 2766 6755 Fax: 2330 8656
    http://www.polyu.edu.hk/~rs/kirt/index.htm

    Clinical Gait Analysis: http://www.polyu.edu.hk/cga
    Send subscribe/unsubscribe to listproc@info.curtin.edu.au
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    (10) From Melissa Brown:
    Date: Tue, 02 Jun 98 12:58:35
    From: melissa_brown@collagen.com
    To: mjack@beta.tricity.wsu.edu
    Subject: Re: What can a biomechanist do?


    I consider myself a biomedical engineer with a biomaterials/biomechanics
    emphasis (BSME and MS Bioengineering). I have been developing resorbable
    orthopedic implants (bone graft substitutes, suture anchors, therapies for
    disc degeneration and osteoarthritis, etc.) for small/medium-sized
    companies for the past 7 years. Among other things, I develop product
    specifications and design/ run in vitro and in vivo tests (including
    animal and cadaver models) for these implants.

    Good luck on the survey. I look forward to your results!
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    (12) From Martha Jack:
    SUMMARY, RESULTS
    Date: Tuesday, 16 June 1998

    There were 11 responses in 3 weeks from May 27 through June 16. Besides
    one person repeating a response, there was a response from another
    newsgroup: WISENET.

    Thanks to:
    1)Kanshukan Rajarathnam Center for Research in Computational & Applied
    Mechanics, Univ. of Cape Town Cape Town, South Africa
    2)Candace Krepel Surgical Microbiology Research lab, Medical
    College of Wisconsin Madison, Wisconin
    3)Peter Meyer Dept. of Biomedical Engineering, Neuro Muscular
    Research Center Boston Univ. Boston, MA
    4)Douglas Chang U.C. San Diego
    San Diego, CA
    5)Arnel Aguinaldo Abel Laboratories, Inc., Institute for Biomedical
    Engineering, U.C. San Diego San Diego, CA
    6)Nat Ordway Dept. of Orthopedic Surgery, SUNY Health Science
    Center Syracuse, NY
    7)Hartmut Witte
    Datteln, Germany
    8)Alena Hagedorn Dept. of Transportation, National Highway
    Transportation Safety Administration USA
    9)Chris Kirtley Dept. of Rehabilitation Sciences, Hong Kong
    Polytechnic University Hong Kong and China
    10)Melissa Brown Collagen Corporation
    USA

    Based on these responses, I would make additions to the analytical outline
    that would include
    Fluid Biofluids Research
    Impact Safety
    Microscopic - biorheology, tissue mechanics, cellular mechanics,
    biothermodynamics
    Modeling and simulation methodologies of complex biomedical systmes
    Nonlinear, nonstationary, sparse data and feedback systems
    Physiological control
    Neural information processing, learning and memory
    Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics
    Prevention, diagnosis, and treatment of diseases
    Application of engineering principles
    Molecular - genetic engineering, electrophysiology
    Cellular - hemodynamics, biophysics
    Tissue - muscle mechanics, cardiac mechanics
    Organismal - osteokinematics, arthrokinematics
    Cardiac Biomechanics
    Pulmonary Biomechanics
    Renal Biomechanics
    Cellular biomechanics
    Functional morphology
    Automotive Safety - occupant design, development, evaluation
    Complexity of human movement
    Orthopedic implant development

    Thus, the outline would appear:
    BIOMECHANICS
    -Application of engineering principles
    -Sports Biomechanics
    -Gait Lab and Analysis
    Functional morphology
    Complexity of human movement
    -Microscopic - bioreheology, tissue mechanics, cellular mechanics,
    biothermodynamics
    Molecular - genetic engineering, electrophysiology
    Cellular - hemodynamics, biophysics
    Tissue - muscle mechanics, cardiac mechanics
    Organismal - osteokinematics, arthrokinematics
    -Orthopaedic Biomechanics:
    Prosthetic design and analysis
    Implant development
    Rehabilitation
    Instrumentation design
    -Industrial Biomechanics:
    Ergonomics - evaluation, analysis
    Safety analysis and Risk assessment
    ADA interpretation
    Architecture, Construction
    -Forensic Biomechanics:
    Vehicle crashworthiness
    Failure investigation and reconstruction
    Expert witness
    Automotive Safety - occupant design, development, evaluation
    -Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics

    BIOMEDICAL ENGINEERING, BIOENGINEERING
    -Rehabilitation
    Prevention, diagnosis, and treatment of diseases
    Cardiac biomechanics
    -Pulmonary Biomechanics
    -Renal Biomechanics
    -Stress Testing
    -Metabolic Measurement, Physiology control
    -Research
    -Modeling and simulation methodologies of complex biomedical systems
    -Instrumentation Technician
    -Fluid Biofluids Research
    -Nonlinear, nonstationary, sparce data and feeback systems
    -Neural information processing, learning and memory
    __________________________________________________ ____________________
    Martha Jack, Ph.D. E-mail: mjack@beta.tricity.wsu.edu
    Biomechanical Engineer Voice: (509) 943-0043
    ___o P.O. Box 776 FAX: (509) 943-4642 ___o
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